{"id":1532,"date":"2016-11-05T15:24:50","date_gmt":"2016-11-05T12:24:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/test.apologeet.nl\/?page_id=1532"},"modified":"2024-05-03T18:03:41","modified_gmt":"2024-05-03T16:03:41","slug":"class-5","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.apologeet.nl\/en\/evolutie-schepping\/cse-material\/cse-class-notes\/cse-104\/class-5\/","title":{"rendered":"CSE-104 Class 5 Notes"},"content":{"rendered":"<!-- INHOUD VANAF HIER-->\n\n<div id=\"no-print\">\n<a class=\"print-preview screenshot print-friendly\" rel=\"\/wp-content\/themes\/apologeet\/img\/tooltip\/print.png\" title=\"Klik hier voor een printvriendelijke pagina&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Click here for a printer-friendly version\" ><\/a>\n\n<a class=\"screenshot pdf\" rel=\"\/wp-content\/themes\/apologeet\/img\/tooltip\/pdf.png\" title=\"Download de pagina in pdf formaat&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Download this page in pdf format\" download target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/pdf\/evolutie-schepping\/CSE-class-notes\/cse-104\/class-5.pdf\"><\/a> \n \n<a class=\"screenshot e-mail\" rel=\"\/wp-content\/themes\/apologeet\/img\/tooltip\/mail.png\" title=\"Mail de link naar vrienden&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Email this link to friends\" href=\"mailto:E-MAILADDRESS?subject=EIk%20heb%20een%20interessante%20pagina%20gevonden%20op%20Apologeet.nl%3A%20http%3A%2F%2Fwww.apologeet.nl%2Fevolutie-schepping%2FCSE-class-notes%2Fcse-104%2Fclass-5%0A%0AI%20found%20an%20interesting%20page%20on%20Apologeet.nl%3A%20http%3A%2F%2Fwww.apologeet.nl%2Feng%2Fevolutie-schepping%2FCSE-class-notes%2Fcse-104%2Fclass-5\"><\/a>\n<\/div>\n\n<br>\n\n<iframe id=\"odysee-iframe\" class=\"iframe-shadow no-print\" style=\"width:100%; max-width:400px; margin:8px; float:right; aspect-ratio:16 \/ 9; border:none;\" src=\"https:\/\/odysee.com\/$\/embed\/@apologeet:3\/cse-104-class-5-creation-science:6?r=Dsga2TMCaV6XJmznpAR28pnJHQPPW7jD\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n\nGenesis 8:1<br \/>\n[1] And God remembered Noah, and every living thing, and all the cattle that was with him in the ark: and God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters asswaged;<br \/><br \/>\n\nNatural gas, coal, oil formed in the flood<br \/>\nCoal found at south pole<br \/><br \/>\n\nAsswaged - drop down - not move away <br \/><br \/>\n\nFlood consisted of - 40 days rain, 150 days water on earth, 150 days water running off.<br \/>\nNoah in the ark for 13 months<br \/>\nGenesis 8:3<br \/>\n[3] And the waters returned from off the earth continually: and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated.<br \/>\nWaters returned continually - waves would still come up and down long distances onto the land after oceans had formed.<br \/>\nAs the earth raised and oceans wend down they would cause earthquakes and Tsunami's.<br \/>\nUnconformity - A surface between successive strata representing a missing interval in the geologic record of time, and produced either by an interruption in deposition or by the erosion of depositionally continuous strata followed by renewed deposition.<br \/>\nLayers going one direction then going another.<br \/>\n\nGrand Canyon has this in some places where large amount of water removed layers and then sediment was laid down in different directions including a volcanic layer.<br \/>\nWhen lava cools under water it forms pillow lava.<br \/>\nMt Ararat is made of pillow lava - at one point it was completely under water.<br \/><br \/>\n\nArk rested in the 7th month in the mountains of Ararat.<br \/>\nThe waves that were returning on the earth continually could have moved the boat after it had landed.<br \/>\nRon Wyatt theory that the boat landed and they cut off the drogue stones and then the boat got moved by a wave down into the valley.<br \/><br \/>\n\nTrees can plant them selves by having a seed deposit its self or a branch start to take root or for a floating tree to reattach its self to the ground and start growing.<br \/><br \/>\n\nOver next few hundred years the ice caps melted and retreated.<br \/>\nIf  you drop the oceans Vietnam and Australia are connected. <br \/>\nThe entire world is connected.<br \/>\nLevels of the land are - Continental shelf, Continental Rise, and the abyss.<br \/><br \/>\n\nAfter the flood people would start building cities near the water and then the oceans would rise.<br \/>\nCity's are found under water all the time.<br \/>\n\nSome would follow the ice caps and hunt the buffalo that roamed.<br \/>\nThey didn't carry tool boxes with them so they would make themselves stone tools.<br \/>\n\nSome tools they made quickly because they only needed them once and others have incredible detail.<br \/>\nSigns of ice being in North East Pennsylvania<br \/>\nSigns of Ice - <br \/>\nRounded mountains - drumlins <br \/>\nKettle lakes formed by isostatic rebound<br \/>\nWater gets trapped in the ground because it has no water outlet.<br \/>\nMN full of lakes.(MN Land of 10000 lakes - WI has almost 15000 lakes)<br \/>\nTerminal moraine at end of glaciers<br \/>\nLateral moraine at sides of glaciers<br \/>\n\nMatterhorn - glacier cut off both sides<br \/><br \/>\n\nGenesis 10:25<br \/>\n[25] And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.<br \/>\nPeleg - earth divided<br \/>\nJoktan - shortening<br \/>\nPeleg was born 100 years after the flood.<br \/>\nNoah and Shem out lived Peleg<br \/>\nWhat happened that shortened his life must have been genetic because everyone after him started dieing earlier.<br \/><br \/>\n\nGenesis 47:7-9<br \/>\n[7] And Joseph brought in Jacob his father, and set him before Pharaoh: and Jacob blessed Pharaoh.<br \/>\n[8] And Pharaoh said unto Jacob, How old art thou?<br \/>\n[9] And Jacob said unto Pharaoh, The days of the years of my pilgrimage are an hundred and thirty years: few and evil have the days of the years of my life been, and have not attained unto the days of the years of the life of my fathers in the days of their pilgrimage.<br \/>\nJacob was considered old at 130 yet even he knew that he had lived a short life.<br \/>\nShem, Arphaxad, Salem, and Eber could have all known Jacob<br \/>\n400 years is still not long enough to learn everything there is to know about everything.<br \/>\nMetallurgy, woodworking, botany, health, these are all lifetime subjects that you never stop learning.<br \/>\n\nIf you lived 950 years like Noah you could have learned lots of things.<br \/><br \/>\n\nWhat it means that the earth was divided.<br \/>\nOne theory<br \/>\nLanguages were confused at Babel and the nations were spread out.<br \/>\nNimrod built the tower of Babel but does not give a number of years in his genealogy however it is the same number of generations between Noah and Peleg and Nimrod.<br \/>\nOld testament gives Peleg's genealogy because he is the blood line of Christ.<br \/>\nWhen the languages were mixed that means the the person that knew how to fix your car now does not speak your language and the guy that knows what herbs heal what sickness lives in a different country.<br \/><br \/>\n\nTheory two<br \/>\n\nThe continents were divided in the days of Peleg.<br \/>\nThis is unlikely because if the continents moved a few inches everyone would die.<br \/><br \/>\n\nTheory three<br \/>\nIce melted and the oceans rose and divided the continents<br \/><br \/>\n\nTheory four<br \/>\nLand was surveyed and split up among the nations because there was a large amount of people<br \/><br \/>\n\nTheory three expanded <br \/>\n\nCold water absorbs CO2 <br \/>\nSoda holds Carbon dioxide better when cold.<br \/>\nCO2 is a greenhouse gas and protects us from radiation.<br \/>\nIncreased radiation would increase genetic defects and also decrease lifespan.<br \/>\nOceans got deeper and colder.<br \/>\nDry Falls in Washington.<br \/>\nMore water went over Dry Falls than every river in the world combined at once.<br \/>\nNow no water flows over the falls.<br \/>\nIce melts would have formed huge lakes and when the lake breached its top it would quickly form canyons and waterfalls.<br \/><br \/>\n\nEnglish channel only 150 ft deep.<br \/>\nOver 300 miles that is not that steep of a drop. Draw it on some graph paper.<br \/>\nThere is a valley between Norway and Scotland that used to be a canyon that is now filled with water.<br \/><br \/>\n\nAs the Atlantic ocean fills in it would backfill the Mediterranean Sea.<br \/>\nAfter the flood they would probably have lots of kids.<br \/>\nMore kids means more help rebuilding.<br \/>\nIf each family had 40 to 50 kids in the 400 years of their life then thousands of people would be on the earth in a few hundred years.<br \/>\nThey would build city's and as the water came up they would get flooded.<br \/>\n\nAncient Egyptian city found under 30 ft of water.<br \/>\nLots of cities found under water.<br \/>\nThe black sea would be the last to fill in from the overflow of the Mediterranean.<br \/>\nYears ago they found many city's 150 ft under the Black sea and said that is proof of the local flood of Noah.<br \/><br \/>\n\nSatan has twisted our minds to see canyons and fossils as signs of millions of years instead of a sign of how much God hates sin.<br \/><br \/>\n\nLimestone is responsive to acid.<br \/>\nMuriatic acid dissolves concrete.<br \/>\nStrip mines dig layers of coal out of the ground. <br \/>\n\nCoal is found in layer of coal, layer of rock, layer of coal, layer of rock, layer of coal, layer of rock, etc.<br \/><br \/>\n\nPicture of fish eating smaller fish.<br \/>\nFish found buried in fear - scales pointed up<br \/>\nFish can drown and suffocate.<br \/>\nFish eating other fish before flood proof that animals were not vegetarian before the flood.<br \/>\nFossils formed during and after flood not before.<br \/>\nFish are not considered alive according to the biblical standard.<br \/>\nInsects are also not living - Adam steps on an ant is not considered killing another animal.<br \/><br \/>\n\nHarry Truman - Lived on Mt St. Helens for 80 years and would not leave when the volcano was ready to erupt.<br \/>\nHe died on the volcano and is still there probably under 100 feet of dirt.<br \/><br \/>\n\nJust like Harry Truman we were also given a warning about what to do wit our lives.<br \/>\nThe end of the world is coming - we should be out there telling the gospel.<br \/><br \/>\n\nSeminar 7<br \/><br \/>\n\nGod wants us to learn, study, and be ready to give an answer.<br \/><br \/>\n\n1 Peter 3:15<br \/>\n[15] But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:<br \/>\n2 Timothy 2:5<br \/>\n[5] And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully.<br \/><br \/>\n\nDon't all scientists believe in evolution?<br \/>\nIf your definition of a scientist is someone that believes in evolution than that is true.<br \/>\nMormon - You can not achieve Godliness unless you are a Mormon.<br \/>\nSame with Jehovah Witnesses and most other religions.<br \/><br \/>\n\nJohn 7:40-49<br \/>\n[40] Many of the people therefore, when they heard this saying, said, Of a truth this is the Prophet.\n[41] Others said, This is the Christ. But some said, Shall Christ come out of Galilee?\n[42] Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?\n[43] So there was a division among the people because of him.\n[44] And some of them would have taken him; but no man laid hands on him.\n[45] Then came the officers to the chief priests and Pharisees; and they said unto them, Why have ye not brought him?\n[46] The officers answered, Never man spake like this man.\n[47] Then answered them the Pharisees, Are ye also deceived?\n[48] Have any of the rulers or of the Pharisees believed on him?\n[49] But this people who knoweth not the law are cursed.<br \/><br \/>\n\nMany believed and many did not<br \/>\nOfficers said \"Never man spake like this man\"<br \/><br \/>\n\nPeople were divided over a question of where he was born when that was not the right question.<br \/>\nArguing about the wrong thing because they did not have knowledge.<br \/><br \/>\n\nChief priests sent the officers instead of going themselves.<br \/>\n\nProfessors will send students with a list of questions.<br \/><br \/>\n\nOfficers \"Never man spake like this man\"<br \/>\nStudents - he answered all the questions reasonably<br \/><br \/>\n\nChief priests get mad and insult the officers.<br \/>\nProfessors say \"you should have then said XYZ\".<br \/><br \/>\n\nThen answered them the Pharisees, Are ye also deceived?<br \/>\nAre you dumb?<br \/><br \/>\n\nHave any of the rulers or of the Pharisees believed on him?<br \/>\nNo scientists believe creation so it is not true.<br \/><br \/>\n\nCreationist work is never published in major science journals so therefore it is not scientific.<br \/>\nAnything that has a hint of creation or intelligent design gets kicked out.<br \/><br \/>\n\nRussia 15 years ago if a teacher stood up and said \"I don't think  communism works. I think capitalism is a better idea.\" He would be living in Siberia if he survived. <br \/>\nCommunists then say \"Communism must be a good idea because no one is speaking out against it.\"<br \/><br \/>\n\nMajority opinion means nothing to determine who is right or wrong.<br \/>\n\nMany scientists are creationists.<br \/><br \/>\n\nRobert Gentry lost his job at Oakridge National Laboratory because he became a creationist.<br \/>\nHis job was to find safe places to store radioactive waste underground.<br \/>\nWhile looking at slices of granite he noticed radio polonium halos inside the granite. <br \/>\nHe was published in all sorts of secular science journals until they realized that what he had found was proving that the big bang could not have happened.<br \/><br \/>\n\nRoger DeHart, hounded out of his job with the Burlington-Edison (Wash.) School District for daring to take a critical attitude toward Darwinian dogma and encouraging his students to do likewise.<br \/><br \/>\n\nKevin Haley was a biology professor at Oregon Community College until the administration chose not to renew his contract. His only crime: to expose students to flaws in evolutionary theory.<br \/><br \/>\n\nWilliam Dembski fired from Baylor University - large Baptist university - for advocating intelligent design.<br \/><br \/>\n\nForrest Mims published in over 60 science journals but was denied a job at Scientific American because he was a creationist.<br \/><br \/>\n\nThey turn away all creation articles and then ask as a proving question how many creationist are published in science journals.<br \/><br \/>\n\nAuthor of \"Of Pandas and People\" when he got saved they tried to fire him but because he was working there for 20 years and they could not fire him they demoted him to lab assistant, a job usually given to students.<br \/>\nHe used to write the text books.<br \/><br \/>\n\nEvolutionists try using the law to fight creation.<br \/><br \/>\n\n[49] But this people who knoweth not the law are cursed.<br \/>\n\"We are smart, You are dumb\"<br \/><br \/>\n\nNicodemus at least went and thought about it before condemning Jesus.<br \/>\nThere is more peer pressure in scientific circles than in a 7th grade class room.<br \/>\nAlmost every branch of science was started by a creationist.<br \/>\nhttp:\/\/www.answersingenesis.org\/home\/area\/bios\/<br \/><br \/>\n\nSeparation of church and state.<br \/>\n\nThere is no such thing in the constitution.<br \/>\nAmendment I<br \/>\nCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. <br \/><br \/>\n\nThe term \"separation of church and state\" was found in a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to a baptist pastor Danbury in 1802.<br \/>\nThe letter described the one way wall that kept the state out of churches and not the churches out of the state.<br \/>\nwww.wallbuilders.com<br \/><br \/>\n\nThe same day that they voted the 10 amendments into the constitution they also voted and approved $500 to be sent to a Catholic priest to help the Indians in St. Louis.<br \/>\nThese men were for the state helping churches and churches being involved in the state.<br \/>\n\nMany churches have given up their status of being churches and become 501(c)3  corporations and therefore are under the control of the government.<br \/>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Genesis 8:1 [1] And God remembered Noah, and every living thing, and all the cattle that was with him in the ark: and God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters asswaged; Natural gas, coal, oil formed in the flood Coal found at south pole Asswaged &#8211; drop down &#8211; not [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":6190,"parent":1520,"menu_order":5,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"spay_email":""},"categories":[225,309],"tags":[252,249,256,234,248,250],"folder":[201,195],"aioseo_notices":[],"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.apologeet.nl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1532"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.apologeet.nl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.apologeet.nl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.apologeet.nl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.apologeet.nl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1532"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.apologeet.nl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1532\/revisions"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.apologeet.nl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1520"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.apologeet.nl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/6190"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.apologeet.nl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1532"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.apologeet.nl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1532"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.apologeet.nl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1532"},{"taxonomy":"folder","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.apologeet.nl\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/folder?post=1532"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}