{"id":1539,"date":"2016-11-05T15:31:20","date_gmt":"2016-11-05T12:31:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/test.apologeet.nl\/?page_id=1539"},"modified":"2024-05-03T18:04:28","modified_gmt":"2024-05-03T16:04:28","slug":"class-8","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.apologeet.nl\/en\/evolutie-schepping\/cse-material\/cse-class-notes\/cse-104\/class-8\/","title":{"rendered":"CSE-104 Class 8 Notes"},"content":{"rendered":"<!-- INHOUD VANAF HIER-->\n\n<div id=\"no-print\">\n<a class=\"print-preview screenshot print-friendly\" rel=\"\/wp-content\/themes\/apologeet\/img\/tooltip\/print.png\" title=\"Klik hier voor een printvriendelijke pagina&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Click here for a printer-friendly version\" ><\/a>\n\n<a class=\"screenshot pdf\" rel=\"\/wp-content\/themes\/apologeet\/img\/tooltip\/pdf.png\" title=\"Download de pagina in pdf formaat&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Download this page in pdf format\" download target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/pdf\/evolutie-schepping\/CSE-class-notes\/cse-104\/class-8.pdf\"><\/a> \n \n<a class=\"screenshot e-mail\" rel=\"\/wp-content\/themes\/apologeet\/img\/tooltip\/mail.png\" title=\"Mail de link naar vrienden&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Email this link to friends\" href=\"mailto:E-MAILADDRESS?subject=EIk%20heb%20een%20interessante%20pagina%20gevonden%20op%20Apologeet.nl%3A%20http%3A%2F%2Fwww.apologeet.nl%2Fevolutie-schepping%2FCSE-class-notes%2Fcse-104%2Fclass-8%0A%0AI%20found%20an%20interesting%20page%20on%20Apologeet.nl%3A%20http%3A%2F%2Fwww.apologeet.nl%2Feng%2Fevolutie-schepping%2FCSE-class-notes%2Fcse-104%2Fclass-8\"><\/a>\n<\/div>\n\n<br>\n\n<iframe id=\"odysee-iframe\" class=\"iframe-shadow no-print\" style=\"width:100%; max-width:400px; margin:8px; float:right; aspect-ratio:16 \/ 9; border:none;\" src=\"https:\/\/odysee.com\/$\/embed\/@apologeet:3\/cse-104-class-8-creation-science:2?r=Dsga2TMCaV6XJmznpAR28pnJHQPPW7jD\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n\nFresh dinosaur bones.<br \/>\nNow there is a real controversy on weather it is a heart or not.<br \/>\nHow could anything survive a change from a 3 chambered to a 4 chambered heart?<br \/>\n\nWhy are there so few human fossils found?<br \/>\nBook - Bones of Contention<br \/>\nThere have been 4000 human remains found.<br \/>\nTrillions of fish fossils are found and billions of plants and animals.<br \/>\nAt the time of creation when God created the world it was full of fish, plants, and animals and only 2 people.<br \/>\n\n2000 years later at the flood it was even more full of fish, plants, and animals but still not that many people.<br \/>\nThere could have been as many as 1\/2 billion people pre-flood but there is no way to know for sure.<br \/>\nPeople may have had huge families - 200 children.<br \/>\nThe purpose of the flood was to destroy man.<br \/>\nGenesis 6:7<br \/>\n[7] And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.<br \/>\nGenesis 6:4<br \/>\n[4] There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.<br \/>\nOn the earth in those days people grew taller than today.<br \/>\n\nSince the people digging for bones have a preconceived notion that man was smaller and are getting bigger and smarter if they find a leg bone from a 12' tall person they would not think it was human.<br \/>\nGiant bones have been found.<br \/>\nThe government of Turkey claims they have found Noah's grave and Noah is 12' tall.<br \/>\n1. Less people were on the earth to be killed.<br \/>\n2. People were smarter so they would be the last to die and would wind up on the surface and rot instead of be buried.<br \/>\nMillions of buffalo were killed on the planes to try to starve out the Indians.<br \/>\nHow many of them were fossilized?<br \/>\nNone of them - they all roted.<br \/>\nFossils have to be buried to fossilize.<br \/>\n\nMost fossils formed in the flood of Noah.<br \/>\n3. If humans were bigger they would probably not be recognized as human due to the finders preconceived ideas.<br \/><br \/>\n\nWhere did the pitch from? Isn't pitch made from oil?<br \/>\nPitch is a thick tenacious substance made from pine trees.<br \/>\nThere was an entire industry making pitch long before the first oil well.<br \/>\n1828 in Pennsylvania the first commercial oil well was drilled.<br \/>\nThey had wooden ships long before that.<br \/>\nToday you can boil pine tree sap and make all sorts of products.<br \/>\n\nWebsters 1928 dictionary defined pitch as resin of pine or turpentine used in caulking of ships and paying the bottom and sides.<br \/><br \/>\n\nWas ancient man primitive?<br \/>\nBook - Puzzle of Ancient man<br \/>\nIn Columbia South America they found a plane in a 1000 year old grave. <br \/>\nSmithsonian called it a stylized insect.<br \/>\nAirplane found in 2100 year old Egyptian tomb.<br \/>\nThere are 20,000 ton stones stacked in place. <br \/>\nToday the largest cranes can only lift 3,000 tons.<br \/>\n\nIron pot and bell are found in coal.<br \/>\nShip that sunk in 100BC had a analog computer onboard.<br \/>\nIraq a ancient battery was found.<br \/><br \/>\n\nBrain surgery marks found on skulls and some that have healed over proving they lived.<br \/>\nMetalic spheres found with 3 lines going around the equator.<br \/>\nFound in 2.8 billion year old layer in south Africa.<br \/>\nHundreds of these spheres have been found in the bottom of a mine.<br \/><br \/>\n\nBook - Hidden History of the Human Race<br \/>\n\nWritten by Michael Cremo (Hindu)<br \/>\nHe believes in evolution so when something is found in 2.8 billion year old rock he believes it was put there 2.5 billion years ago possibly by aliens.<br \/><br \/>\n\nCoso artifact found in 1961 in California.<br \/>\n4300 ft above sea level<br \/>\n340 ft above dry Owens lake.<br \/>\nPorcelain with wire running through the center.<br \/>\nThought to be 1000 years old<br \/>\nVery similar to a super conductor capacitor.<br \/><br \/>\n\nNano-technology spiral shaped objects found in Russia by rivers and streams near Moscow.<br \/>\n3-12 meters under water level.<br \/>\nRange in size from 0.003mm (1\/10,000th of an inch) to 1.5 inches<br \/>\nSpiral is in the golden ratio.<br \/>\nMade of copper or tungsten and molybdenum.<br \/>\nMelting point from 4740 F to 6100 F.<br \/>\nHow did they make these?<br \/>\nPre-flood not only smarter but better eye sight.<br \/><br \/>\n\nGreat pyramid<br \/>\n67 pyramids and 66 are copies of the great pyramid.<br \/>\nAll the rest have hieroglyphics saying who built the pyramid except the great pyramid.<br \/>\nMay be an Egyptian building or an alter to God.<br \/>\nIsaiah 19:19<br \/>\n[19] In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD.<br \/>\nLargest building in the world by volume.<br \/>\nTake the next 99 largest volume buildings in the world and they together would not be the same volume.<br \/>\n\nPyramid 480 feet tall.<br \/>\nSome of the stones are 70 tons.<br \/>\nHow do you get 70 ton stones 400 feet off the ground?<br \/>\nDoor not discovered until 800AD<br \/>\nOldest Egyptian records say they do not know where it came from.<br \/>\nStones so perfectly cut that a piece of paper could not be fit inbetween.<br \/>\nThere are two paths - narrow way to the kings chamber and broad way to the pit.<br \/>\nWas covered in 144,000 casing stones. (interesting number)<br \/>\nRevelation - 144,000 Jews saved.<br \/>\n\nChief corner stone never put in place.<br \/>\nSome say Adam made it, some Noah or Enoch. <br \/>\nKings chamber has an empty tomb with same volume as the ark of the covenant.<br \/>\nJesus Christ is the chief corner stone.<br \/>\n5 sides is same number as grace.<br \/>\nCorner stone is useless until it is needed - can't put anything on it or use it as a table.<br \/>\nDaniel 2:34<br \/>\n[34] Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.\nOccult symbol on the $1 bill.<br \/>\nDesert behind the pyramid and green plants in front symbol of how they are  going to make the wasteland better.<br \/>\n\nRight eye at top - symbol of Lucifer<br \/><br \/>\n\nWas Earth ever a molten mass?<br \/>\nBible says earth created under water.<br \/>\nRobert Gentry - polonium halos<br \/>\nFound in granite all over the world.<br \/>\nPolonium atoms decay and explode creating miniature spheres.<br \/>\nIf the rock was molten then the sphere would dissipate in the liquid rock.<br \/><br \/>\n\nGlobal Warming<br \/>\nMost people worried about global warming live near beach.<br \/>\nIce caps melt and the water rises.<br \/>\nEnvironmental movement front for communists to take away your liberty's.<br \/><br \/>\n\nGreen river formation<br \/>\nStrata of rock with millions of thin layers.<br \/>\nStone contains layers of pollen only produced in the spring and pollen only produced in the fall.<br \/>\nMillions of layers of spring - fall - spring - fall means millions of years.<br \/>\n\nTake a chunk of several layers and crush it up and put it in water.<br \/>\nIt will form layers again.<br \/><br \/>\n\nMars Rock.<br \/>\nLife here came from Mars.<br \/>\nMars lander ran many tests and did not find even a trace of a germ.<br \/>\nRock ALH001,0<br \/>\nLooked at it under a microscope and saw squiggly line.<br \/>\nMars is .5 AU away.<br \/>\n\nSomething large enough to hit mars and send a chunk to the earth would have created so much heat on impact it would have destroyed any sign of life.<br \/>\nWouldn't re-entry to earth have destroyed any sign of life?<br \/>\nCouldn't sitting in Antarctica for thousands of years contaminated the sample?<br \/>\nThere is no poof it was from Mars.<br \/>\n46 Million miles away<br \/>\nClaim it broke off 16 million years ago and landed 13,000 years ago.<br \/>\nHod did the bacteria survive the explosion, freezing space, and re-entry?<br \/>\nWhat did they eat for thousands of years?<br \/>\nWhile this was going on NASA grant money was stalled in congress.<br \/>\n\nCongress was not going to approve vote to spend millions for NASA.<br \/>\nThey had th rock in storage for 7 years previous and pulled it out and said it was from Mars to get the funding.<br \/>\nOnce the money was released they admitted to making a mistake and that it was not life but pyroxene and carbonate crystals that form naturaly.<br \/><br \/>\n\nBible says Eve is the mother of all living<br \/>\nTheistic evolution - maybe God used evolution<br \/>\nHugh Ross says he is not a Theistic Evolutionist but he believes many of the same things they do.<br \/>\nCould God have used evolution?<br \/>\nNot the God of the bible.<br \/>\n\nIt is against the teaching in the bible.<br \/>\nJacque Monod - Survival of the fittest is cruel and evil. It is a blind and most cruel way of selecting new species and is against modern ethics. I am surprised that a Christian would believe in this process. An ideal society is a non-selective one.<br \/><br \/>\n\nThe God of evolution is not the protestant waste not want not God of the bible. He is also not a loving God that cares about his work. Certainly not a God that anyone would want to prey to.<br \/><br \/>\n\nGenesis 2 - God ended his work of creating.<br \/>\nIt is not an ongoing process.<br \/>\nDeath before sin.<br \/>\n1 Corinthians 15:21-22<br \/>\n[21] For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.\n[22] For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.<br \/><br \/>\n\nGod made Adam in his image from the dust of the ground and made Eve from Adam's rib.<br \/>\nGod of evolution is stupid and not a real God because he can not do it right the first time.<br \/>\nEvolution nullifies the need for Christ since Christ was redeeming us from our sins.<br \/>\nThere is no evidence anyway.<br \/>\nWhy compromise a perfectly good Bible when it has never been proven wrong.<br \/><br \/>\n\nHas the pope ever accepted evolution?<br \/>\nYes, but I wouldn't believe any pope.<br \/>\nPope John Paul III sold cyanide to the Germans during WWII and after the war feared for his life so he hid as a priest. <br \/><br \/>\n\nAre there contradictions in the bible?<br \/>\nIt depends on what bible you use.<br \/>\nThere are none in the KJV.<br \/><br \/>\n\nGenesis 1               Genesis 2<br \/>\nBirds on Day 5          Birds on day 6<br \/>\nBirds from water            Birds from dirt<br \/>\nAnimals before man      Animals after man<br \/><br \/>\n\nGenesis 1 is the account of the entire creation. Genesis 2 is a description of what happened in the Garden of Eden after Adam was made.<br \/><br \/>\n\nDay 6 God made Adam, trees, one of each animal, and women.<br \/>\nGod did it all in front of Adam so he would know God was the creator and so he could choose a wife.<br \/>\nEve was the only one that did not see God create anything so Satan came to her.<br \/>\n1 Timothy 2:14<br \/>\n[14] And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.<br \/>\nAdam was not tricked but became sin to save Eve.<br \/><br \/>\n\nSolomons brass bowl.<br \/>\n\n5 cubits high, 30 cubits circumference, 10 cubits diameter.<br \/>\nMath is wrong - should be 31.4 cubit circumference.<br \/>\nThickness was a handbredth <br \/>\nHand to cubit ratio is .14.<br \/>\nInside circumference was 30 cubits outside diameter was 10 cubits math works.<br \/><br \/>\n\n2 Chronicles 9 and 1 Kings 4<br \/>\nHow many horses did Solomon have?<br \/>\nforty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots<br \/>\n\nfour thousand stalls for horses and chariots<br \/>\n40,000 horses - 4,000 stalls<br \/>\nTwo authors telling the same story.<br \/>\n10 horses per chariot<br \/>\nHorses get shot as much as people.<br \/><br \/>\n\n2 Samuel 10<br \/>\nthe men of seven hundred chariots <br \/>\n1 Chronicles 19<br \/>\n\nseven thousand men which fought in chariots<br \/>\nThere were 10 men per chariot<br \/>\nMany new versions have messed it up by trying to fix it.<br \/>\nNIV 4000 stalls 12000 horses<br \/>\nNAS - Correct<br \/>\nNRSV - Wrong<br \/><br \/>\n\nPeter Ruckman - The \"Errors\" in the King James Bible.<br \/>\nHe defends 500 supposed contradictions in the KJV bible.<br \/>\n\nLeviticus - Rabbits do not eat cud.<br \/>\nRabits eat their food, partially digest it then after they pass it they eat it again.<br \/>\n\nActs 12:4 - Easter <br \/>\nShouldn't it be passover?<br \/>\nExodus 12 - This month should be the first month of the year for you. The 10th day (April 10) take a lamb, keep it till the 14th day (April 14) and kill it and put blood on top and sides of doorway.<br \/>\nFirst passover was at night.<br \/>\nLord's Passover 14th of April.<br \/>\nThis day should be a memorial for you and a feast.<br \/>\n\nSeven days should you eat unleavened bread.<br \/>\nNumbers 28:16-17<br \/>\n[16] And in the fourteenth day of the first month is the passover of the LORD.\n[17] And in the fifteenth day of this month is the feast: seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten.<br \/><br \/>\n\nPassover first, then days of unleavened bread.<br \/>\nIshtar - (Easter) pagan festival symbolized spring, rebirth, bunnies, playboy, fertility.<br \/>\nPeter was arrested during days of unleavened bread.<br \/>\nAfter passover Herod wanted to kill him at easter<br \/><br \/>\n\nGenesis 10 - God divided language<br \/>\n\nGenesis 11 - world of one language<br \/>\nLike a newspaper headline - Bus crash kills 40 - The bus was driving down the road....<br \/>\nGenesis 10 tells the main point and Genesis 11 elaborates on it.<br \/><br \/>\n\n1 Corinthians 23000 die in one day<br \/>\nNumbers 25 24000 died <br \/>\n1000 died on a different day<br \/><br \/>\n\nTextus Receptus<br \/>\nAlexandrian Manuscripts<br \/><br \/>\n\nPeople would copy the bible off of scrolls.<br \/>\nSomeone would copy it every day for several years and when the original was worn out they would discard it and keep coping off a copy.<br \/>\nGod told the profits what to write and after a few hundred years there were hundreds of copies.<br \/>\nCopies would get spread around world and they would have no contact between the two copies.<br \/>\n200-300 AD Alexandria Egypt claimed to be Christian but were a cult and did not believe in the deity of Christ. <br \/>\nThey made their own copy of the scrolls and made slight changes.<br \/>\nWhere it said 'Lord Jesus Christ' theirs say 'Jesus Christ'<br \/>\nThe church go a copy and said it was no good.<br \/>\n\nThe cult dissolved and the church went on using the good copies.<br \/>\nIn 1400 there were 5000 copies that were all the same and they make the KJV bible from them.<br \/>\nWestcott and Hort used Alexandrian Manuscripts because they were older than the rest (correct) so they must be better (WRONG)<br \/>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Fresh dinosaur bones. 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