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CSE-102 Class 10 Notes

CSE 102 – Class 10

Appendix vestigial
vestigial – don’t need it anymore
ours is smaller than a horses so it is a sign that we are loosing it
or we just eat less roughage than a horse so don’t need it as much
you can live without both your arms and legs, that doesn’t mean you don’t need them

Whale Pelvis
“Just imagine whales walking around, its true”
whale pelvis holds its reproductive organs
Human tail bone has no apparent use
holds 9 muscles that are important for body functions

They used to think there were 180 vestigial organs when they started
Now we know there are none
Even if there were that would be the opposite of evolution. Do we keep loosing organs until we have everything we need?

How long would it have taken for Mt. Rushmore to happen on its own
wind, water, ex-foliation, erosion

Things have adapted to their environment
“picture plant adapted to take in nitrogen”
“fish adapted gills to live in water”
how did they live before they adapted gills? – they all died for millions of years

Evolutionists argue against design using arguments they designed.
“Darwin’s black box” – hair on bacteria
minimum number of parts for an internal combustion engine to work
Bacteria motor has 40
Irreducible complexity – can not remove one more part without making the machine stop working
How many parts in a car ?
how many do you need to remove to get the car to not work – any one of thousands (key)
bacteria motor take away any one and it will not work
when it was evolving how did it know that when it had 35 parts it only needed 5 more?
8 million of these motors would fit in the cross section of a hair
spins at 100,000 RPM
motor moves through liquid the equivalent of a human swimming 60mph through peanut butter
viscosity problem – the smaller you are the thicker the liquid feels

Eye Evolution
They arrange a bunch of eyes in order from simple to complex and guess that this is how it happened.
Psalm 94:9 – God formed the eye
back of the retina there are 137,000,000 light sensitive cells in 1 square inch – each one wired directly to the brain
eye sees more color and can focus faster than any camera
Poor eye design – blood vessels in front of retina block light – octopus has better eye its blood vessels are behind the retina
Octopus lives in water – water insulates UV light
Humans live in air – air poor insulator for UV light
swap eyes with octopus and you would be blind in a few days

Origins of life
1950 Stanley L. Miller and Harold C. Urey
“Earth’s former atmosphere”
They assume there was no oxygen because if there was than the new life would oxidize and break apart
We live in an oxidizing atmosphere (cut fruit, metal)
all layers of rock have oxidation so the Earth always had oxygen – the older the layer the more oxygen it has
Textbook “life only produces life” couple pages later “here is how life formed from non living matter”
Took gases and fed them through the tubes and used spark to simulate lightning
had a methane ammonia water vapor hydrogen atmosphere – no oxygen
they produced a “mixture rich in amino acids”

Letters in the alphabet are the building block for making words
dump block letters on the floor
probability of making a word – low
probability of making a sentence – impossible

It requires a bunch of amino acids in the correct order to make a protein
it takes millions of proteins to make a cell
they excluded oxygen because they knew the amino acids would oxidize and bread apart

Earth has always had Oxygen
need oxygen to create ozone
ozone stops UV light
UV light destroys ammonia
ammonia one of the building blocks of his atmosphere
no oxygen no ammonia

the contraption had a trap door to filter out the product because if it was let go through again because if it did the lightning would have destroyed it
they created
85% tar
13% carboxylic acid
toxic to life
2% amino acids
Did not create life – proved that it could not happen

26 letters can be arranged to make hundreds of thousands of words
words can be arranged to produce an unlimited number of books

there are only 20 amino acids
combine to make proteins
smallest protein contains 70 amino acids
sentence that has 70 letters
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
Has every letter in the alphabet (35 total letters)
put letters in a box and dump them out to make that sentence
no chance
all the letters have to be facing the right way
letters can be to the left, right, upside down, reversed, reversed to the right, reversed to the left, reversed, upside down, or right way up (if their 2D – 3D have more combinations)
amino acids have to be facing the right way to form a chain
There are right handed and left handed amino acids
fitting right handed nut on left handed bolt
Chirality – spin / twist of a molecule
to fit all have to be the same hand to make a chain
dump the letters on the floor and half will be upside down
R in Russia can be used backwards
T can be used if its reversed
Experiment produced right and left handed
amino acids are left handed
DNA/RNA are right handed

1 cell has more complexity than the city of New York
problems with the experiment
1. Excluded oxygen
2. Trapped out product
3. Half were right half were left

proteins in water are more likely to devolve before they come together
most scientists agree the oceans are full of water
This was supposed to take place in the water
once 4 or 5 get together they will fall apart
Brownian motion
put one drop of red food coloring in glass of water it will spread through the entire glass
molecules of water bumping together will spread other molecules apart

They are under the impression that if you get all of the molecules together in the right order they will miraculously come to life
Take a frog – put it in a blender
all of the molecules are in one place
how long before another frog (or any type of other animal) comes back to life
even if you manually reassemble the frog its still dead
none of the parts in an airplane fly
its the intelligent design that causes all of the parts together to fly
nothing in aluminum causes it to fly
nothing in a frog that causes it to be alive
there is no chance of it becoming alive on its own
there is the breath of life thing that no one understands

There are no 2 or 3 celled organisms
billions of 1 celled
smallest grouping is 20 and they don’t even make up a tissue
tissue takes hundreds of thousands of cells
“2 celled creatures must have existed but there are not any left”
there is no such thing as a simple life form
Trees of life in text books are nonsense
they arrange them in what ever order looks best and only the tips of the branches contain any data because no one knows anything that was before them.

Textbooks teach smaller is simpler
in the 1850’s when they started looking at cells they could only see what appeared to be a bag of jelly
a cell is incredibly complex
the parts of a cell are also incredibly complex
thousands of paramecium can fit in a single drop of water
there more complicated than the space shuttle

Smaller is not simpler
Cray computer
6 Billion calc/sec
lots of energy (kW)

$48 million
lots of people to maintain
2300 lbs
1000 Billion calc/sec
10 mW
100,000 mi/gal of honey
compare size of bee with wing size it cant fly
(Don’t tell the bee)
self contained – self reproducing
less than 1 oz
human brain millions of times more complex than a bee’s brain
3 lb brain
more electric connections in brain than in entire world
stores more information than a library
computers rated by how much information they can process and retrieve
human – elephant – whale – all beat a cray computer

CSE-102 Class 9 Notes

CSE 102 – Class 9

Jump frog
4 legs – 80″
3 legs – 70″
2 legs – 60″
1 leg – 50″
no legs – 0″
The less legs a frog has the shorter it jumps

After removing the last leg the frog goes deaf

Good observation – Bad conclusion

Flies with larger wings in north – Darwin as fit as ever

Peppered moths – Fake
found 2 moths on tree for entire 40 year study
95% white 5% black pre industrial revolution
5% white 95% black during industrial revolution
95% white 5% black after industrial revolution
Population shifted from white to black and back again
Moth population adapted to new environment
We all came from a rock
God gave them the ability to survive no matter what environment they live in
GM puts both AC and Heat in the same cars. – They have completely opposite purposes.
Plan ahead = good design

Think Critically
Do you think humans are still evolving
Have you stopped beating your wife yet
assumes an answer
How might have dinosaurs body heat problems lead to their extinction
Assume they are extinct and had body heat problem
Soviet style question
Why is communism the best form of government
Political poles ask question to get the answer they are looking for

Homo – same , ology – study of
bio – life
geo – earth
structures are the same so they must have evolved from common ancestor
radius ulna humerous
carples phalanges fingers

Comparative anatomy – study of structures of different organisms
Birds + Horses + Humans share similar structure
They have a variation of a similar pattern
They have a common ancestor – jump frog jump
It was a good design – No machine as complicated and accurate as hand and arm

BSCS Textbooks have most evolution
Christians busy in church and helping others while atheist’s are lobbying congress and getting on text book selection committees. They have nothing better to do but write letters.

Similarity between developmental stages for all animals is what helped convince Darwin of evolution

Amphibian – two lives – part in water – part on land
Embryology – Baby goes through the FARM stages in the womb
Gill pouches – folds of skin that turn into bones in the ear and glands in the neck – nothing to do with breathing just folds in the skin
Some people have four or five chins but can only breathe through the top one
Ernst Hackle – 1860 – Embryology professor
University of Gena in Germany
In 1860 he read Darwin’s book
1859 Russia still controlled by czar till 1917
Slavery still going on in America
Civil war started 1861
Darwin was racist “The Origin of Species : By Means of Natural Selection or The Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life”
Hackle lived in Germany – White Aryan race
after 9 years of no one finding evidence for Darwin’s theory he decided to take some drawings of a dog, salamander, fish, and human embryo 4 weeks after conception and altered them to look alike
Increased head size on human
changed eyes, ect
Made giant poster and traveled around Germany to promote evolution
“Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny”
6 professors from the Gena university accused Hackle of faking the drawings and held a trial and found him guilty of fraud
1874 the idea that humans have gill pouches was proved wrong
130 years later it is still in the textbooks
Arms and Camp – Biology – Journey into life
“By 7 months the fetus looks like a normal human baby but its not”
34% of babies born at 5 1/2 months survive
they call it a fetus because they want to make you think it is not human
Only reason is to justify abortion
4500 babies killed every day
Why does choice stop at birth
Article in paper “Pro-Choice and Anti-Abortion demonstration”
Media covers the 6 pro-choice but not the 1000 pro-life after Dr.’s shot in FL
W.W.II if you shot the guards to save the Jews are you bad or good?
If you kill the murderer (Dr.) is it bad or good?
There should have been a trial and then the state should have executed him
News jumped on gun control issue
They broke 18 gun laws by going into the school another 5 would not have stopped them
Should we have public schools?
Should we teach kids evolution that teaches there is no right or wrong and no God
Both Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were atheists
Father was geologist
Eric’s shirt read Natural Selection
Shot Isaiah Shoels for being black
Had Nazi cross on shirt

Should there be public executions
Bible death penalty required 2 or 3 witnesses
circumstantial evidence would mean life in prison
Take your kid to a public execution and they won’t do that crime
France – some one was being taken to the guillotine and someone asked “do you think this will prevent someone from doing crime”
they answered “it will for him”
Should there be a law that requires every law abiding citizen to carry a gun
Sign on store “No guns allowed”
robber reads “Rob Me”
Should have sign “All employees carry guns”

Government wont allow it because the One World Government doesn’t want citizens that can defend them selves
Vladimir Lenin said “One person with a gun can control 100 people without guns”

Reasons given to kill children
1. Not Human
2. Not viable – can not survive on its own – neither can you naked on north pole – some kids still come home at age 25 for money
3. Unwanted – lots of kids alive are unwanted
4. Financial burden – every kid is a financial burden
5. Due to Rape or Incest – Kill the rapist Adopt the baby
Women raped and keeps the baby – 5 years later has flash back of terrible event and kills the kid – Is it Murder?
What if it is only 5 months?
What about 5 minutes?
What about 5 minutes before its born?
Every one that supports abortion has already been born
6. Its legal
1956 in Germany the government wrote a law saying Jews were not human
it was legal to kill Jews
Hitler killed millions because he believed evolution
He tried to convince everyone the Jews were inferior
Offered to send the Jews to any country that would take them and Roosevelt refused to take them.
The immigration records for those years show average number of immigrants from every other country but almost no Jews being allowed into America
Hitler would let any Jew leave the country with only $4 – Roosevelt said the Jews could only come into country if they had $10000

Hitler’s List
Blond Hair Blue Eyed Norwegian – Pure Aryan
Brown hair blue eyed (Less preferred Brown eyed) German – Mostly Aryan
Mediterranean – mostly Aryan
Slovak – Half Aryan Half Ape
Oriental – slightly Ape
African – mostly Ape
Jews – almost pure Ape

After the Jews the blacks were next
1938 Olympics held in Germany
Jessie Owen the black American athlete won the most gold medals
Hitler said his men should not have to race against this animal

Nuremberg Germany
Trial held for war criminals
they said they were only following orders and did nothing illegal
they were still convicted of murder
There is a higher law than German law or American law – Gods law

If you take an egg of an eagle and break it you will be fined and go to jail
if you kick a expecting mother in the stomach and the baby dies you may be sewed and put in jail
Revolutionary war – 25,000 killed
W.W.II – 400,000 killed
Abortions in USA – 38,000,000
World wide – 1,000,000,000
Average 1 per women
in Russia average 7 per women
even higher in china

If its not alive why is it growing
if it is not a human being what kind of being is it

Margaret Sanger in 1916 started Planned Parenthood
She was a racist and wanted to “weed out” blacks, Orientals, and Jews
wanted to use birth control to create a race of “through bread humans”
1952 – How to plan your children – pamphlet
What is planned parenthood?
Is it an operation – No
Is it an Abortion – Certainly not, abortion is an operation that kills the life of a baby after it has begun. It is dangerous to the mother and can leave you sterile.
Views have changed in past years

CSE-102 Class 8 Notes

CSE 102 – Class 8

Grandpa Erasmus Darwin
Very over weight – Had to cut table out so he could get to food
Darwin’s dad was also a Doctor
Charles Darwin was sent to become a doctor however he didn’t like blood
Dropped out of medical school
Liked to shoot birds because he loved worms – birds eat worms
He was sent off to become a preacher
Church was paid for by government so he didn’t have to do anything to get paid
He couldn’t find a perish to work for so his dad pulled some strings to get him a job on the Beagle sailing around the world.
It didn’t pay but it fed you
5 year voyage
he brought the Bible and Lyell’s book “Principals of Geology”
Churches at this time were teaching “Fixidity of the Species”
God created every single species exactly as they are seen today
As Darwin sailed around he observed that this was not true
It was his job to collect bugs and birds for a museum
Darwin said Lyell’s book changed his life forever
Captain Fitz Roy was a very standoffish Christian that insisted he was right on everything and drove Darwin even further away instead of trying to win him back with gentler Christian love

Galapagos Islands
Giant tortoises – live on land
turtles – live in water
Sailors would catch the tortoise and bring them on board ship so they could eat them later.
Almost wiped them out
Darwin noticed the Finches on each island had a different beak or feet than the others
Some lived in trees and some on the ground
Some ate insects and some ate fruit
14 varieties of Finches
Originally blown off South America in a storm and landed on islands
Artificial Selection – Selective breading (Dogs)
Natural Selection – (Finches)
Darwin breed pigeons and got hundreds of variations – still pigeons

Looked at his observations and thought “imagine what nature could have done in millions of years”

Rabbits in Alaska have more fur
Dear in Canada are larger
Eskimo’s are usually short and stalky
Each adapted best for its environment
Cross breed Killer whale and dolphin and the offspring was fertile
Tiger and Lion – Liger or Tigon depending on father
Horse and Donkey – mule (Usually sterile)
Kinds can bring forth

Original rose had 5 peddles
Someone kept mutating it until he got one with the many curled up pedals the way it is now

Micro evolution is observed
farmers depend on this to make a living
Guernsey – Good Milk
Angus – Good Beef
Brahman – weather tolerance, Long life
Brangus – ok beef ok life longevity – used to breed more Angus

If all you found were bones to chiuaua and Great Dane you would never think they were the same kind of animal
fossils of caterpillar and butterfly
maggot and fly
tadpole – frog – (tale – 2 legs + tale – 4 legs + tale – 4 legs)
butterfly can reproduce – caterpillar can not

sexual dimorphism
Male and female have very different bone structure
Sea lion – small female large male
Black widow spider – large female small male
Find their fossils you would think they were different species

10 times found in Genesis
“After its Kind”
Robert Gentry – Oakridge laboratories
Lost his job due to writing his findings that questioned evolution

Micro – Macro Bate and Switch
New car for $10 – Get there – were out of them but here is the $20,000 model
Give example of Micro in text books and tell them that Macro happened without evidence

Variations are limited
1000 lb hog – never get it as big as Texas
Release it back into wild it won’t survive
Variations usually cause problems and need to be tended to or it will die
Pesticide kills 99.9% of roaches
0.1% survive because they were already immune and produce immune offspring
Not new information –
Northwest passage searchers that died were found frozen
They already had resistance to penicillin – had not yet been invented yet.

1785 James Hutton – “Theory of the Earth” – caused doubt of age of Earth
1830 Charles Lyell “Principals of Geology” – Took away flood
Darwin – “The Origin of Species : By Means of Natural Selection or The Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life” – Took away God

75% of kids from Christian homes will lose their faith within the first year of a secular college

Evidence for Evolution
Molecular biology
Natural Selection

Mutation will make something New
Beneficial mutation will take over entire population

Mutations do not create new material they just scramble existing
Polyploidy – Doubling of chromosomes
makes something twice as big – still same information
5 legged bull
Short legged sheep
Double headed turtle
4 winged fly
Game mix letters in CHRISTMAS to spell words
Never get Zebra Xerox or Queen

Natural selection works however it has nothing to do with evolution
Natural Selection can only work on biological properties that exist. It can not create properties to meet needs.
No matter how much you may want to grow a third arm, another pair of hands, a third eye, or pair of wings it won’t happen.

Natural Selection is quality control
GM assembly line – picks out every defect and repairs it
How long till the car turns into airplane

tautology – sentence that means nothing
Why did this one survive – Its the fittest
How do you know its the fittest – It survived
Whale goes through school of fish – Survival of the luckiest

CSE-102 Class 7 Notes

CSE 102 – Class 7

2 people see same thing and come too two different conclusions
Grand Canyon
Evolutionist – Millions of years
Creationist – Flood did in 30 minutes
Kaibab uplift – 7000-8000 ft
Colorado river enters canyon at 2800ft above sea level
Leaves canyon at 1800ft above sea level
Drops 1000 ft
No delta
Grand Canyon is washed out spill way
Water goes over at lowest point – makes opening larger until canyon is formed

2 Peter 3:3-4
“[3] Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
[4] And saying, Where is the promise of his coming” for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.”

Scientists watch how much rock is removed in 1 year and calculate how long it took to form the canyon by multiplying by how deep it is

2 Peter 3:5
“For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:”

James Hutton wrote a book in 1775 (Theory of the Earth with Proofs and Illustrations)
Estimated earth was much older than expected – looked at rock formations
Established uniformitarianism
The present is the key to the past – Things are as they always were

1700’s many revolutions to get rid of kings – bible says you should honor the king – get rid of bible

Scottish lawyer Charles Lyell read this book
He hated the bible
In his writings he scoffed at the bible instead of outright saying that Christians were wrong because most people were still Christians.
“the interests of religion as well as those of sound philosophy had suffered, by perpetually mixing up the sacred writings with questions in physical science”
“men of superior talent alone, who thought for themselves, and were not
blinded by authority, could deduce any jut conclusions from geological evidence.”
Lyell wanted to “free the science from moses”
Lyell dug and found layers.
He named the layers and assigned them an age and index fossil
Only place geologic column exists is in the text book

No erosion marks between layers
Did not rain for millions of years?
polystrate fossils found through multiple layers

Minerals have hardness between 1 and 10
1 talc – softest material
3 finger nail
10 diamond – hardest material

Circular reasoning
1830 derived age of layers based on portions of living and extinct mollusk shells in the layer.
Assumed evolution happened to get results
Encyclopedia Britannica agrees that dating is circular
archaeologist – 0-1000 years old
anthropologist – 1000 – 1,000,000 years old

Radiometric dating can not be done without first using index fossil to determine age
Circular reasoning can be dealt with in the following ways
3.Ignore it – it is not the concern of the public
4.Deny it – Call out the law of evolution
5.Admit it
6.Avoid it by pragmatic reasoning

Limestone appears multiple times in the geologic column
How can you tell how old it is?
By the index fossil
They think Trilobite is a good index fossil for 600MY
Fossilized Trilobite smashed by shoe

1974 Science News
Trilobites eye is the most complex eye structure ever – 16000 lenses – can see in every direction
Trilobites roll up when scared or naturally roll up when dieing
Found fossilized in all positions including half rolled – covered very quickly

Graptolite – New York State fossil
410 MY old
in 1995 found some in South Pacific
they could be in any rock layer

Lobbed fin Fish
Short arm then fin
Index fossil for 325 to 410 MY old rock
1938 found in fish market
Coelacanth – Indian ocean – Madagascar
It survived 300 million years.
Won’t admit geologic column is wrong

18MY old leaves found still green

Readers digest Mysteries of the Unexplained
Toads that jump out of lumps of coal
France blasting a tunnel through a mountain
Pterodactyl 10’9″ wing span
leathery skin
squawked and died
perfect imprint of it on both sides of the rock
many toads and lizards can stay dormant for years

Petrified trees are found standing up through multiple layers of rock all over the world
many of the layers are less than 500 years old
short roots – ripped out of ground
some found in coal
top petrified – bottom coalified
sometimes found upside down

1800’s more machines started to be invented
what used to take 3 weeks to harvest can now be done in 3 hours
world becoming more prosperous
When things are good people tend to go away from God
Lyell tells them rock layers are million’s of years old
Lyell influenced Charles Darwin who was straight out of bible college
Lyell’s book Principals of Geology was written in 1830
Darwin took his voyage in 1831

CSE-102 Class 6 Notes

CSE 102 – Class 6

Dinosaurs still alive
Seminar 3b
Dewey decimal 001.9
Library of congress QL89
Study of hidden animals
bernard heuvelman wrote book reporting there were 20000 sightings of live dinosaurs
some were frauds
if dinosaurs are still alive then it doesn’t matter if we find dino bones with human bones of footprints
most cryptozoologist’s are evolutionists
“they survived for 75 million years”
wrong conclusion

Children have already been brainwashed to say dinosaurs have lived millions of years ago when they don’t even know what a million is
1885 Belgium colonized the Congo
(Colonized = took precious metals and stones)
1960 communists came and liberated Congo
Now it is known as Peoples Republic of Congo
Used to be Belgium Congo

1910 article called “is Brontosaurs roaming wild in the Congo…”
Competition of people looking for dinosaur bones
1948 January 3rd Saturday Evening Post
3 page article of dinosaurs still living in Congo

In 1932, cryptozoologist Ivan Sanderson was told by tribesmen of a strange creature that left over sized hippo-like footprints, and which they called Mgbulu-eM’bembe
cryptozoologist Roy Mackel and herpetologist James Powell 1984
thought it wasn’t true but like good scientists they went to investigate any way
Lets go to the north pole to look for Santa – waste of money
Most scientists don’t want to look for dinosaurs because they ‘know’ they are extinct
Congo is the worst swamp in the world
mosquito’s were landing on them at a rate of 1000 per hour
Cryptozoologist Roy Mackel and herpetologist James Powell set off on their own expedition for mokele-mbembe in 1980. They returned only with interviews with natives who had heard of the long-necked, 30-foot-long creature. They said that around 1959 one had even been killed by natives along Lake Tele to stop it from interfering with their fishing. Their legend stated that whoever ate meat from the animal, died. When Powell showed pictures of various local animals to the natives, they correctly identified them. When he showed them a drawing of a sauropod dinosaur, they said that was mokele-mbembe.
It spends most of its time under water
it usually comes out at night
the people are very superstitious and believe if you talk about it you will die
Its favorite plant is the Molombo plant
Similar to Apple but harder

Mackel tried not to lead the natives to an answer so he asked some of them what mok’ele-mbembe was and others he drew a picture and asked the name of what he drew
Natives killed and ate one in 1959 and everyone either got sick or died
Didn’t know how to clean it properly or it spoiled
They saw one and described it as dark brown with smooth skin – long neck – small head

Articles are now shunned or edited out of scientific journals if they hint that dinosaurs may be alive because this throws off evolution

Snakes have been found
Guinness Book of World Records – 32ft
Colonel Fawcett shot and killed and measured a 62-foot Anaconda snake. The natives that were with him said, “Colonel, you should see the big ones!”
130 foot Boa was reported in Reuters News Service in Peru
Brazil Columbia border committee killed 98ft 2ft dia 2 tons – 4 men couldn’t lift head
Ecuador 100ft – military hunted it down after it killed 2 soldiers
150 ft floated down Amazon River where 9 mi wide – goes to 200 mi wide at Atlantic

Loch Ness monster
1933 there were mountains on both sides – only way in was by river that connects to ocean
1933 road was installed in V shaped grove blasted into side of mountain around the lake
11,000 reported sightings
3,000 recorded
52 reported while blasting was occurring
some are hoaxes to attract tourists
If you get one counterfeit $20 that doesn’t mean they are all counterfeits – bad example – they are all fake
most people describe a pleaseeasaur
Long neck – long tail – 4 flippers
Alex Campbell, a water bailiff (game warden) saw it 18 times

Loch Ness very large
6 Billion people could all go and drown in it
dark water – full of peat from shore slowly settling down
10 ft down its black
lake 1000 ft deep
Japanese took 24 boats with sonar
first scan of entire bottom of lake
wrinkled up like a raisin
Caves in bottom
1934 creature washed up on shore of Normandy Beach
1905 Brazil – observers 2 experienced British naturalists
New Zealand – Japanese fishing boat – nets 900 ft down – stunk so bad they threw it back
4 flippers – long neck – long tail – took pieces of it back to have analyzed
96% similar to shark protein
Japanese make stamp that year with picture of it
Fishers knew it was not a Basking Shark

1994 Russia – huge creature washed up on shore
lots of creatures around the world